| Title: | H C Lawlor to Mr Kernoghan, Re Moore and Fleming Families |
|---|---|
| ID | 3562 |
| Collection | Irish Emigration Database |
| File | lawlor, h. c/6 |
| Year | 1915 |
| Sender | Lawlor, H.C. |
| Sender Gender | male |
| Sender Occupation | unknown |
| Sender Religion | unknown |
| Origin | Belfast, N.Ireland |
| Destination | N.Ireland? |
| Recipient | Mr Kernoghan |
| Recipient Gender | male |
| Relationship | writes to ask about genealogical information |
| Source | D 1897: Presented by Anonymous. #TYPE LET Letter from H.C. Lawlor, Belfast to Mr Kernoghan concerning Genealogical Research into the Families of Moore, Derrykeighan, Co Antrim and Fleming Aughnacloy Co. Tyrone, 1915. |
| Archive | Public Record Office, N, Ireland |
| Doc. No. | 8909175 |
| Date | 1/1/1915 |
| Partial Date | |
| Doc. Type | LET |
| Log | 06:10:1989 LT created 03:10:1990 MC input 08:10:19 |
| Word Count | 676 |
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| Note | |
| Transcript | Killyfaddy, Windsor Avenue, Belfast. Dear Mr Kernoghan I am afraid it would be difficult to throw much light upon many of the early part of the Pedigrees of the present Co [County?] Antrim Landowners of the original Antrim Estate. To begin with, in the Muster Roll there are no less than 16 Moores in Dunluce Barony alone - of these 8 "had a sworde [sword?] only" and 8 had "no armes [arms?]" - From this fact you may assume they were all of the agricultural or working classes - none are described as "Gents", or were armed as such - The next account of the inhabitants is the hearth money Roll of 1665/6 - I have not a copy of this, but my recollection of it is that no Moores had risen above "a house with no chimney" or "with one chimney" - No Co. [County?] Antrim Moore appeares in the list of attainted Gentry of King James II's Parliament nor (I think) in Cromwell's list of protestants to be deported to Connaght. It seems only to have been from about 1700 any of the Co [County?] Antrim Moores became men of some inportance, and if I am not mistaken the [Ballydivity?] Moores had no money to secure a perpetuity lease from the 5th Earl of Antrim about 1740 - This may I think be regarded as the foundation of the Family - I think the Moore Lodge & Moorefort families date from about the same time as their lands seem to be parts of the Forfeited lands of Sir James McDonald - my brother in law Mr Allan McDonald could tell you this with certainty - These old armorial tombstones in ninety nine cases out of a hundred are absolute nonsense and are the inventions of the old stonecutter's Guild - no Moore of County Antrim was entitled to bear arms up to at least 1840 - of course the blackamoors' head as crest & blackamoors as supporters are puns on the name, and were first granted to the Moores of Co [Kent?], (Drogheda Family) about 1550 - The Co Antrim Moores are pretty certainly all of the Ayrshire stock, but of the early part of the Pedigree, prior to some of them becoming Landowners, I think it is safe to say nothing is known - I have no notes of the Stewart Moore Family - It is quite likely the Derrykeighan stone and that at Kilraghts are to relatives, and as the date is not very old, it is quite likely Mr Stewart Moore would know - He is an old man now and I don't fancy either he or Mrs Moore know or care much about the pedigree, though they may have notes - I return the sketch and photos - Fleming - I have notes of this family, but I fancy nothing of interest - A Rev. [Reverend?] Mr Fleming of Leeds has been writing me on the subject and I can show you his letters; but I suppose your enquiry is for him? one of the Cairnes, about 1670 married one Fischer, whose daughter married Fleming - I had no note of this when writing the Cairnes Book, the Rev Mr F [Fleming?] is in my opinion a most tiresome correspondent, pedigree mad. He has endless slips of printed pedigrees or sections of pedigrees made out, all worded in the stilted fashion of Sir Bernard Burke "Samul [Samuel?] Fleming, of Aughnacloy, in the County Tyrone, Esquire"! &c &c - He creates them all "Esquires" and is quite innocent of the fact that in old times to describe a person as above implies that the man described as " of -----, Esquire" was the owner of the place!. He uses highly crested note paper, and appropriate as the crest may be, I cannot find that these esquires, so called, ever bore arms - But if your enquiry is for any other Fleming, his notes may be of interest, and I shall be happy to show you his letters any time Yours sincerely H. C. Lawlor ------------------------------ |
