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Title: W. & H. Brown, Belfast, to James Brown, Philadelphia.
CollectionIrish Emigration Database
FileBrown, William/111
SenderBrown, William
Sender Gendermale
Sender Occupationpainter & glazier
Sender Religionunknown
OriginBelfast, N.Ireland
DestinationPhiladelphia, Penn., USA
RecipientBrown, James
Recipient Gendermale
SourceD 3688/F/24: Deposited by C. MacLaughlin Esq.
ArchiveThe Public Record Office, Northern Ireland
Doc. No.9103006
Partial Date
Doc. TypeLET
LogAction By Date Document added by C.R., 02:12:1993.
Word Count1913
TranscriptTo: Mr James Brown
Mercht [Merchant?]
Care of Mr Samuel Brown
No 73 Chestnut Street
per Ship

Belfast March 1821
Dear James,
Your letter of the 9th Nov. via Liverpool came duly
to hand, anouncing [announcing?] the return of brother Saml
[Samuel?] per Ceres, but poor [J__ow?], he was at last to
find a watery grave, as it appeared; when the vessel arrived,
he had died on the 27th Dec., I need scarcely say, we were
much dissapointed [disappointed?], but from your report of
his health, we were afraid he would not be able to stand the
sea, more especially in the winter time, the vessel was out
7 weeks & had a very severe voyage. Father as usual, has been
complementing [complimenting?] us all about Sam & John he
says they were transported &c, but however his tongue is no
scandal (as the saying is) at least we never pay much
attention to his encomiums, however I hope they are better
provided for, & out of a world of troubles. We got Samls
[Samuel's?] trunk, every article safe, the Capr [Captain?]
had taken an inventory of all his clothes &c, there were 16
dollars, which George demanded, saying he had the best right
to them, as he had been at so much expences [expenses?], I
said they ought to go back, or something in return to you,
but he appeared to talk of them behind my back to James, I
thought it best to let him have them, this I mention,
trusting you wont hint any thing, as he has blames [blamed?]
me for writing concerning Mr Batt's affair & he says more, so
I mentioned to you before not to even hint at any matter
which I give you information of - any thing you wish to learn
off me, if you would put an extra slip, inside your letter,
as I always let them all read, in case they might think you &
I were corresponding in the dark - I understand Geo.
[George?] is not a pertner with Js. [James?] Gregg, but is to
have £150 per year & 5 per cent on all sales of salt, but his
other business he manages himself leaving Geo. [George?] to
the fridom [freedom?] of his own will, Geo. [George?] says
this is only for 1 year, untill [until?] they get matters
arranged, for you never saw a concern like it, there is
scarcely any trade but he has employment for, I believe I
mentioned Geo. [George?] was to live on the Concern, but he
is not yet gone as his rooms are not yet dry enough, it
certainly is a very fine establishment, & they are enlarging
it & going to erect two more pans, they cannot make the salt
half fast enough, the Ceres got all was in their store, &
they have 150 tons sold for the James Bailie, & not a pound
made of it, the Jefferson had to get from Larne, as they
would take none from Mr Batt, the fact is, if it was not for
the Bank, he would not sell any salt, so you know what I
mean. I wrote you about the failure of McCutcheon, he as not
got his affairs settled yet, Nor is he likely, the securitys
[securities?] have to finish the Buildings (I mean the
Commercial), we have got the painting through the intrest
[interest?] of Mr J. Batt, A.Moreland, & Maxwell Lipper, who
are part of the security, we are to get £100 which is to
[too?] little by 20, but considering the season of the year,
when nothing was doing not is doing in town at present but by
ourselver we had Gribbin & Hill on all winter at 12s/- per
week from Nov. to May, which will help to make up the
deficiency, this was the bargain between them & I if I would
get the B[__?], we have two Boys who get 7/6 each for diet
money & we are much better off than dieting them in the
house, between the jobs which we have had during the winter
(as the weather was very Open) our Men & Boys have not lost a
day & we have not the Buildings finished, I can call them off
when I think proper, & set them on when their job is done, &
no remark made, so I think I was rather fortunate in getting
the, although we will not have a death by them, the money
will be shure [sure?] when they are finish'd, & will pay off
Mr Shirly for what we got since Novr [November?], as we are
clear of the spring accts [accounts?] we are not due him £70
- James Harper died 4th Jany [January?] - Old Mrs Malean
[McLean?] died 1st July Mrs C. Gregg is also - Saml [Samuel?]
Dawson is gone to London to be Agent for the N.E.
[Northeast?] Traders - Thos [Thomas?] Geltston of P.Ferry
[Portaferry?] has fail'd in an emense [immense?] Sum & will
be a vary bad failure - Hu. [Hugh?] Johnston of the N.
[Northern?] Bank ran away & took £1400 (he is now in
Charlestown) since when they have had no peace in the Bank,
they have 5 or 6 young men on trial, they have all to give up
their cash at 3 o'clock, Henry Holmes who is in partnership
with Jas [James?] Crawford is now cashier as Mr Sloan has
lost his health, they say he has £300 a year, but the firm of
Holmes and Crawford are always the same they have lost a
great deal of money, J. [James?] Crawford was wishing he had
been out of business yet- I had a letter out from
Wm.[William?] Thompson, Archie is off to Columbus to look for land,
Wm [William?] & sister remain in Washington all Winter, the
Direction I have is, Care of Joseph Thompson Brick-layer,
near the war office, City of Washington, I think it very
strange they did not write you according to promise, they
were all well & had a good passage - I forgot to mention,
George Braddel is gone to the works in Geo's [George's?]
place, he is not liked & and [sic] is the means of destroying
their sales - You mentioned Mr. Creightion would call & so he
told Geo. [George?], but he never thought as yet, he told Geo
[George?], several times on charge he would be up, but he has
been so much engaged with quality, I suppose our place would
not be good enough for him, so if he calls before he leaves
town he may, but Geo. [George?] is so piqued, he wont ask
him- Captn. [Captain?] Catheson only once I asked him to
Dine, but he could not come on a sunday as it is the Only day
we can say is our own, I gave him the choice two Sundays, I
asked him on friday for sunday, but he had to go Ballymena
then I mentioned the next Sunday, but he was engaged to go to
Carmoney [Carnmoney?] I went down another evng [evening?] &
asked for tea, he promised to come next evening but
dissapointed [disappointed?] us, so I never went near him
since, I hear he is a very idle felow [fellow?], & and [?]
has left the ship entirely to the mate, he was only once or
twice down the since she came in, he is rather fond of
Dancing & Jaunting - Mr Redfern would be Obliged to you if
you could find his Brother, he is a saddler & formely
[formerly?] lived 43 high Street, Robert is his name, if you
find him I would thank you to call on him & sa [say?] what he
is about & send me word, you can answer him any question
relative to Joseph, he has the entire trade I may say of the
town and Country - Uncle Hu [Hugh?] has got the Mountain
again at £30 per year advance, Mr Thompson was offered more
but he would not give it to any person else, he & his family
are safe and well, Aunt Betty & David are as usual
complaining Thomas Brown is married to a Daughter of Arthur
Clarks, he got some money with her I believe £100, he is now
living in town Keeping Cows-
Uncle Andw [Andrew?] is always in good work making money, he
has three cows & he gave Geo, [George?] £30 for Which Geo
[George?] Gets him interest, his wife is a wonderful Slave -
She has three children, the last were twins- Aunt Shaw is
looking better, she has only one child & I think to all
appearances she will have no more - Geo [George?], is quit
notion of America & is doing very well I was up about 3 weeks
ago, I went up the length of Mrs Iannhills, & Mrs Hu [Hugh?]
Cromack family are well but the old woman is much fail.d
[failed?] She can scarcely walk her legs are so bad, the Old
man much the Old Cut - no appearance of Mary going off the
stocks - Alex is driving all before time, he is a great
farmer as well a provision Mirch [Merchant?], he bought all
his beef in town this year, he was not up the country this
year at all, he complains heavly upon James they have not had
a letter from him 9 months, I think his remittance would be
very acceptable, at least I can learn as much from young
Arthur, Moreland & Dunn sent him a good many articles but I
think they wont send any more speculations, for the returns
have paid very badly, they have lost £100 lately by a house
in derry [Londonderry?] which has made them Null in their
homes - I took over your letter to Mr Ballantine, which was
very acceptable, Miss Molly said if she was near you she
would pull your ear for not writing of her, & likewise for
not writing to her, however I called this Morning & Mr
Ballantine has been very ill but is getting better, Miss
Molly sends her compliments to you & hopes Mrs Ballantine
will be able to write by the next vessel, I have no more word
of her wanting the rest of her money, if she does it will not
be well, I have been trying two places where they had
advertised money to be but neither would take houses as
security, I hear Mr. J. Batt is going to quit business, the
timber trade is doing nothing - You mentioned giving up the
land & it is no easy matter, however we are due a years rent,
which I intend paying next week, I would have done so sooner,
in order to have been able to send you word how or came on,
but the money is very difficult to catch, the next letter I
hope will carry better news, for I wish with all my heart, we
had done with land - we have had 6 weeks of very dry weather
a great many have done sowing, we have an Oats sower, & wife
commence setting potatoes immediatley - this letter is very
topsy - turvey, however, between sins & nonsense, it will
divert away the time, & let you know some part of what is
going on, I will write you by the first opportunity, hoping
these may find you enjoying health, as we are at present -
always remaining
Dear James
Yours truly
William Brown

Belfast March 1821
William Brown
Hugh Brown
recd [received?] 4 May